Topic: A Broader View / Correctional staff - alcohol and/or drug addiction?

I respectfully beg to differ on some of the opinions here.

I’ve fought the alcohol addiction demon myself years back for reasons I’m not going to discuss here. Nothing about it was ever “easy”. Yes, someone wanting help and wanting to quit is always the first and most important step. But to claim that all you need is a positive attitude and overcoming such problems as easy severely discredits the amount of effort and struggle it really can be to overcome such an issue.

Any staff member who brings in contraband or otherwise deals with the inmates is never “best intentioned”. Any fellow staff who do such things are nothing short of a security breach and a huge safety risk to everyone in the camp.

Topic: The Club House / Privatization

The real but sad truth is it will be a member of the frontline staff who gets hurt or worse before those “all knowing” ones in charge begin to understand how bad of an idea this really is. Even then don’t expect them to admit to any mistakes or wrong doing on the administration side.

I’ve been around most of the private food service workers here and honestly I feel bad for most of them. Imagine if you had to restrain a a combative inmate and your supervisor hands you a bread tie… Make do with what you have is the directions they’re given. Anything ran “for profit” in a correctional setting is and always will be a bad idea. Corperate greed takes over every time.

Topic: Health & Wellness / Physical Conditioning?

BAZOOKA !!!!!!!

Topic: A Broader View / Ohio DRC Hiring Freeze??

Oh and FYI, here in Ohio if your taking your pre employment drug test then your background check is done and clean. The drug test is the last step and only done after you accept the job position they offer you. So unless you piss dirty, welcome to the family.

Topic: Security Central / Best way to handle unruly inmate

What a vicious circle it is indeed

Topic: The Club House / Pretty Girls... New Hire

Challenge accepted sir

BTW…. whats the name of that frozen flounder website?

Topic: Security Central / Alternative to cell extractions

That’s a fact. Usually they want to see how far they can take it, other inmates cheering them on doesn’t help either.

Topic: Health & Wellness / Physical Conditioning?

Have you seen most of the people in Walmart? Would you really want to touch some of those “interesting” ones all day long? Go to work for the TSA that way you can do cavity searches in secret rooms.

Topic: A Broader View / Ohio DRC Hiring Freeze??

Who makes it hell? From what I’ve seen it can be caused by administrators, inmates and coworkers alike. For the most part inmates are fairly predictable but you always have at least one that wants to push an issue somewhere you didn’t think possible. What makes it hell? Usually that comes from dealing with the other staff that are to burnt out, lazy, or just plain bitter to be around for long periods of time and or causing mandated overtime every other day. We work in a place that is already a depressing, negative and possibly dangerous place, sometimes people are hell bent on making it worse.

I started and spent several years at SOCF but transfered to SCC to get closer to home. Most of the time I’m happy with the move, others not so much.

Topic: Health & Wellness / Physical Conditioning?

As they say… No pain, no gain

Topic: Health & Wellness / personal med kits?

Thats what the medical staff get paid for

Topic: The Club House / Hello

Amen to that

Topic: The Club House / Female going into corrections

This job changes you and your way of thinking as time passes. Keep emotion out of it, observe and learn from the veterans, (the good ones) and never do anything that causes you or anyone else unwarranted risk.

Topic: The Club House / Pretty Girls... New Hire

People still go out for coffee and or tea? I thought everyone just sat around and twitter each other or something like that now. Eh, I’m kinda ugly and don’t get many dates so what do I know….

Sadly Campi, that wouldn’t stop the folders. Just make them a little smaller and a lot more disturbing.

Topic: A Broader View / Ohio DRC Hiring Freeze??

“Hell” is a relative term… So far everywhere I’ve worked in ODRC has been dubbed “hell”. Some were obviously way worse than others.

Topic: Security Central / Best way to handle unruly inmate

If you give an inmate a smoke, he’ll want a light. Give an inmate a light, he’ll want a cup for water. Give an inmate a cup and he’ll crap in it and throw it at you.

Topic: Security Central / Alternative to cell extractions

Option one, you talk them out. Option two, gas em till they puke and give up. Option three, Go in full throttle and do the dirty work by hand.

Several agencies have used canine assistance and other methods with mixed results. Best way is getting them to comply without force, but to much dismay of the modern era bleeding hearts the old school goon squad is still the most effective and used method.

Topic: The Club House / Hello

Welcome to the online circus

Topic: The Club House / Pretty Girls... New Hire

Keep in mind the time tested thought of “be cautious of the quiet people”. I’d say about 80 to 90% of those who go out of the way to come off like Billy Badass are quite the opposite, staff and inmate alike in this case. Granted I’m not much for the kind and gentle ways of today, but I make a point not to go causing unwaranted problems. Give everyone what they have coming to them, nothing less and nothing more. I.E. if inmate A hasn’t been marked for his rec on my shift then he gets his rec time, yet inmate B has been marked off from the shift before then he has nothing owed and nothing coming from me for rec. Same with staff members, if we get along and like each other than I’ll be more personable with them. If we don’t I’ll still do my best to make sure you go home safe and the job is done but don’t expect me to come by and be your best friend. Once you’ve hit the point where inmates and coworkers know how you function the job becomes much easier. Same for the new hires. Once you understand how those your surrounded by every day function then you’ll have an easier time dealing with the games inmates play along with the off beat humor and other quirks correctional employees are known for.

Topic: Everything Education / New CO- Salary Negotiation Question

Good Enough Degree

Topic: Everything Education / Psych Eval

3 drinks a day?, your ability to stay sober is quite impressive sir.

Is this measured per day or an adverage for the week? Also how “intoxicated” do you have to be to qualify for his other question as the levels of intoxication are varied. “He thinks you drink to much” Well what scale is he using to make this judgement?

The variables to this is both far and wide and much to difficult to be answered so easily. I think we should all meet up and discuss said issues over a few cold ones.

Topic: Tech Talk / Electronic Logbooks

I can sum up the electronic logs in one word. “Sucks”

Topic: The Club House / Inmate entitlement!?!?

sits quietly in his cage Ugh Ugh Ugh….. Banana!!!!

Topic: The Club House / Hello, I'm a student specializing in Corrections

A for effort, yet a C- at best for the answers.

Topic: A Broader View / Long Hair on the Job

Wow…. Just wow. I’m really shocked, offended and have severe emotional damage from all the stereotypical irish references that have taken over this thread. Just last night I cried myself to sleep from all the mental stress and unfairness of it all. You people should all be ashamed of yourselves and be put though cultural diversity training.

Just kidding…. Someone pass me a beer and some of those lucky charms. The corned beef and whisky didn’t set right and I need some breakfast to top it off.